Sunday, November 23, 2014

Massive Radiation Found in the Upper Atmosphere

Quick report here.   Drop a comment folks, and sign up as a follower, right on the right hand side of the blog.

Very interesting findings on my last airplane flight.    It was during the day, so good lighting, and no adjacent passengers, so I could do plenty of Geiger testing without getting anyone upset.

I have video and pictures are will place these into a post at Nukepro when I can

There was considerable radiation differences in different areas on the flight path, and at the same cruising altitude.    Basically 11 CPS to 15 CPS.   CLICKS PER SECOND!   not per minute, per second!

The upper atmosphere is FULL of radiation.    Much more so than 20 years ago.     Cosmic radiation is various stuff, and what you will pick up on an Inspector Geiger will be gamma.    There is no beta radiation in Cosmic.   

A few centimeters of flesh will stop all Beta radiation

By putting the Pancake Style Geiger on my leg, I can effectively block all beta coming from the "downside".     Beta from the "upside" will still hit the Geiger tube, so I can block half the Beta

In multiple repeated tests the readings quickly ramped down from 15 CPS to 11 CPS doing the Leg Beta Blocker test routine <LBB>(TM stock 2014).     This is a delta of 4 CPS due to Beta being blocked on one side of the pancake geiger.

Since I was blocking 50% of the Beta with the flesh of my leg (or stomach as shown in the video), this means there is 2 times 4 CPS beta in the aircraft.   8 CPS Beta, of 480 CPM Beta inside the air of the airplane.    I see.

This Beta, to repeat, is not Cosmic.   Fukushima is here.

Review the Nukepro Geiger interpretation chart here to see what 240CPM means.  
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2012/04/geiger-counter-interpretation.html

Here are 2 videos shot back to back that shows the massive Beta reduction using "body shielding".





This is 13 CPS, Clicks per second.    A normal background radiation level in modern days is 25 CPM Clicks per minute.    Do you see an issue here?

This is a different display mode on the Radiation Alert Inspector, it shows micro Sv per hour, based on assumption of Cesium as the isotope.    At 4 mSv/H there is a real risk of cancer if exposed for 90 days, see the table below.    Flight crews are in danger.



Craig-123 from ENENEWS contributed the following information

This other site did more like a "data logging" using altitude, but claimed it all to be cosmic, which is gamma and Xrays

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=16&month=11&year=2014

And here is some stuff from Anti-Proton

* For more: view Anti-Proton's You-Tubed high altitude experiences at:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwYs0Ue4SbI
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apWRH39Jgcc




Here is a view of the "Alpha window" on the backside of the inspector, the door actually makes a nice standoff so you can put the inspector over a radiation test plate and yet not touch the sample.


United Airlines cabin, complete with high beta emitting air.   


The Lies from LANL Further Endangered The Workers at WIPP

Some great investigative reporting in New Mexico

http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html

Taken together, the documents provide a window into a culture of oversight at the lab that, in the race to clean up the waste, had so broken down that small missteps sometimes led to systemic problems.
Even before the waste was treated at Los Alamos, mistakes had been made that could have been instrumental in causing the accident at WIPP. Emails between WIPP contractors involved in the leak investigation indicate that something as simple as a typographical error in a revision of LANL’s procedural manual for processing waste containing nitrate salts may have precipitated a switch from inorganic clay kitty litter to the organic variety.
And for two years preceding the February incident, the lab refused to allow inspectors conducting annual permitting audits for the New Mexico Environment Department inside the facility where waste was treated. Only since the radiation leak has the Environment Department demanded that it go inside the facility for inspections.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.U7QN1Dse.dpuf

Taken together, the documents provide a window into a culture of oversight at the lab that, in the race to clean up the waste, had so broken down that small missteps sometimes led to systemic problems.
Even before the waste was treated at Los Alamos, mistakes had been made that could have been instrumental in causing the accident at WIPP. Emails between WIPP contractors involved in the leak investigation indicate that something as simple as a typographical error in a revision of LANL’s procedural manual for processing waste containing nitrate salts may have precipitated a switch from inorganic clay kitty litter to the organic variety.
And for two years preceding the February incident, the lab refused to allow inspectors conducting annual permitting audits for the New Mexico Environment Department inside the facility where waste was treated. Only since the radiation leak has the Environment Department demanded that it go inside the facility for inspections.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.U7QN1Dse.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf

Saturday, November 22, 2014

A sad state of affairs at ENENEWS

  • Ya I am done folks, and I will have to say, the multiple trolls condoned by this website pushed me over the limit.
    The tolerance of severe negative energy trolls should not be.
    If the Administration cannot keep up with it, he/she should give 3 or 4 other obvious trusted individuals with level heads to have ban privileges, it is a built in part of WordPress.
    Not just that they disrupt and taunt and bring people to their worst.
    But this website allowing them with impunity to call me gay and an atheist. That goes strongly against my basic makeup.
    And to see those comments stay on the site after being reported a full 24 hours….that's a big no go.
    Good luck, those who have been paying attention have my email. I will also leave the Nukepro site up for now, as there is useful information there.
    Aloha,
    stock out

    • melting mermaid melting mermaid
      My Father is a bisexual scientist and my other father is an athiest Catholic. What are you saying Stock? And I've been called a lot worse than a gay athiest. Why just the other day someone called me a pagan socialist, airheaded democrat and I was like, how dare you call me a democrat.

      • zogerke zogerke
        melting mermaid, and you enjoyed reading the protocols of the elders, too….whatever. sometimes your heart seems in the right place, some times you are out there….. anyone reading this site has a lot of work to do to separate the wheat from the chaff. the chaff is radioactive and does not blow away so easily any more! (chaff is the fluffy light husk that surrounds wheat, in the old days it had to be hand separated to make grain edible.)
        stock as you know taking a hiatus can be fruitful. Especially with so many dropzilla fruitflies buzzing around and mutating, showing up again and again, trying to derail conversations. this was actually a good thread, and lots of it is still good. i vote for us to not be derailed.
        Has anyone written admin on facebook to remind the person to clean the threads of fruitflies again?
        agree on request for more moderators.
        zogerke out.

        • melting mermaid melting mermaid
          I don't think anyone would enjoy those protocols, but if you look around you, you will notice more people care about football and basketball, than our impending radiological doom or our completely amoral foreign policy. Is that by design? Sometimes it appears that way. Ever read Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent? I read a book about false flags that mentioned the protocols, so I read them, big deal. I've read a lot of things. Doesn't make me anti semetic, in fact, I'm half Jewish Indian. And yes, I am out there, I spent most of my life studying spiritual things and I don't doubt the universe is teeming with intelligent life, and I am an airhead, complete with a super high voice, an annoying laugh and a hot body, so sue me. If you don't like my posts, just skip over the big blue eye. Easy peasy.

      • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
        Just want to say , that's a brave post MM , thank you.

        • melting mermaid melting mermaid
          TY, DID, just trying to diffuse the tension. I've never met my real Dad. All I know about him is he was a Phi Beta Kappa and my Mom said a guy named Dickie stole him from her. True story, I know, crazy. I did meet Dickie, though. Lol.

      • johnnyo
        Ohh Melting One….your 7:06 was gut busting hilarious….not trying to get all 52 Rockwell, but I think i'm falling in cyber love
        protocols schmotocols……call a reptile a reptile and be done with it. Do Not Ever apologize for being you.
        "how dare you call me a democrat"…just too damn funny, on multiple levels. I cyber hug you….long time

        • johnnyo
          probs cause I was raised very Union/Dem, but now Pagan Socialist is about as close to a label as could be pinned on me. :)

          • melting mermaid melting mermaid
            Thanks Johnnyo, I was raised Catholic Republican in the deep south. I studied comparative religion and I live in Vermont and I love Bernie Sanders and I think the environment trumps all. So, you know, they think I need an exorcism or something. Personally, I think they're the socialist pagans. Christianity was paganized by the Romans and stealing money from poor people so that rich people can be richer is still the redistribution of wealth, call it capitalism all day, but when you put crony in front of it what you get is some kind of sick, inverted socialism. I call them the Dooh Nibor, because they steal from the poor to give to the rich. The sickos.


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    • Understood Stock.. so sad to see you go…
      AGR is asking for volunteer admins as well.


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    • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
      Stock please read my post above..


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    • or-well
      Good luck stock.
      Many have left because of various situations resulting from Admin's hands-off approach.
      Admin has said s/he is too busy to attend to it.
      This is an essentially unmoderated site. No one should expect it to get any better.
      Personally, I expect progressive deterioration.


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      • or-well
        Pathetic troll. Stalkerish, for those who may not have noticed.


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      • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
        Fuck you mengele..there are still human beings in this corrupt world that leave an unpleasant empty space behind when they move on..you will never posses such quality..


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      • RaDiaTed JeWeLz RaDiaTed JeWeLz
        YOU ARE INFECTIOUS HUMAN WASTE!!!!
        JUST LEAVE US ALONE!!!
        GO AWAY!!!
        Newsers…
        I think we all should just NOT reply to ANY TROLL comments. Nothing. Let it say whatever it wants!! If we don't look at it or acknowledge its existence, it'll fade.
        Don't even bother to read their shit! We know what we know. C'mon guys…. our replying is just egging it on! We're losing the good ones because we are letting our anger and rage take precedence over what is important!!
        Who's with me??


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      • Troll tactic #5
        Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', 'Fukushima truther' and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.


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  • Jebus Jebus
    There is a limit. A point at which the cycle is broken.
    Stock is right. There is a limit. That one can take.
    There is a limit to how many creatures can die.
    There is a limit to how much species genome damage is done.
    There is a limit to the lies before they become obvious.
    So far, there are no limits to Fukushima's contamination.
    The world knows. It's everywhere like a cancer, woven into our daily life and even in our satire. The new normal.
    Does anyone really get it?
    Or will everyone eventually get it?


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    • VoxDei VoxDei
      You have been foolish in using your time here. By that I mean your replies are inane and do not add to the cause you so lament.


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      • Jebus Jebus
        You ever notice how a wave just goes right around ya?
        No matter how small a wave, it's still bigger than you…


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      • "You have been foolish in using your time here."
        If that is true, then why are you still here? What does that say about you?


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        • VoxDei VoxDei
          Im here to assess this site's efficacy to unbiased factual accuracy. My assessment is that you people scurry about without making a dent. You are wasting your time. Another reason I am here is to document your failed efforts.


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          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
            Yes ..but why ?
            Better still ..for whom?
            Why is my/our failure important ..to you?
            Is this on a personal level?
            Does this have something to do with your childhood?
            Have you seen my cellphone?


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          • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
            Vulgar Deception said :
            Another reason I am here is to document your failed efforts.
            ————–
            Sure , milk that extermination in progress for every kick you can get out of it..


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          • Wyakin Wyakin
            Brilliance, “In a nutshell,” excellent job channeling Socref and his progeny’s words through god.
            I think that might be blasphemy, perhaps punishable by stoning in some countries, or excommunication. That hardly qualifies as the “Voice.”
            My source speaks to me every day, and it reaffirms, be aware of false prophets.
            A fraudulent science of radiation effects has been promulgated by the ICRP, forming the current foundation of radiation safety, which ignores the actual microbiological effects of internal radiation emitters and discounts the effects of LLR.
            Since your arrival, over +8,000 have liked ENE. Clearly you have been banging on a keyboard and neglected the meditation I suggested would have assisted in your focus.
            Instead:
            Mr. Nutshell, in the name of the almighty, clarifies that those eating a feast made from Fukushima contaminated produce have nothing to fear, even if they have eaten off of Fiesta plates, under Coleman lantern lamps.
            Invoking the “American way” as justifying NP to boil water for electricity, to enrich the few through taxpayer subsidies and through the ongoing health cost to communities surrounding NP activity, is nothing more than the continuing ventriloquist act.


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            • Wyakin Wyakin
              One not so small intractable problem, disposal of NP waste lasting hundreds of thousands of years, will be the capstone on mankind’s odyssey on this planet.
              Students of advanced chemistry and microbiology understand the of radiological impacts on organisms.
              By now you should have an update on the 100 or so scrolls for which peer reviewed publication was previously requested.
              Here we are, a half century or so later with hundreds of thousands of tons of nuclear trash, no permanent waste solution is in sight, and vast quantities of trash being generated each year.
              Who’s paying for the hundreds of billions or trillions in cost related to FU and Chernobyl containment? It’s not the voice of god, is the taxes paid by hard working people who are continuously being exposed to the profit generating waste.
              Nuclearists sack the public coffers through corporate welfare.
              Radioisotopes never present before man made fission, are now upon the earth, aloft upon the winds and contaminating our waters, being incorporated into our macromolecules and our progenies DNA tertiary structures, and expressed in DNA defects generously conveyed for 22 generations.
              None of the world’s population asked for this.
              God would never approve of such offensive misappropriation of the name or offence against gods people…


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              • You see vox never states which god vox represents, the god of this world aka devil or the GOD of the universe.
                What is a devil?
                A devil is a lazy, uncaring, lying, deceptive being that disobeys basic universal laws of humanity and transparent democracy. Rat finks that infest towns and cause fences to be erected to protect the township.
                Please enlighten us vox dei as to your fence choice.


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            • ISeePinkClouds ISPC
              Yes. Wyakin. TY. Precisely. Well Spoken. Peace


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    • :|
      "… there are no limits to Fukushima's contamination."
      – Jebus
      Round and round she spews, where she stops nobody knows…
      IMO – Eventually, everyone and everything will, get it.


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  • VoxDei VoxDei
    This site enabled many people with impunity to harass people with opposing views. When the shoe is on the other foot, weak-minded people flee. He will be back. Like a moth to a flame, his ego wont let him stay away. He has brought his misery on himself. Gaytheist is a very mild name to call someone who called others worse and used vulgarity without real accountability.


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  • dunkilo
    Stock, I wish you love and peace in your life and that goes to all you good enenewsers …
    Truth is the ultimate form of love…..
    Bitter as it may be sometimes…..


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  • Jebus Jebus
    The global effects of the largest RADIOACTIVE isotopes of xenon noble gas in the history of man, were never more apparent…
    The ocean is now warmer than ever before in recorded history
    http://qz.com/296706/the-ocean-is-now-warmer-than-ever-before-in-recorded-history/
    I'm surprised the atmosphere doesn't glow like a colored neon lamp…


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  • TimV
    Third repeat post.
    WE ARE AT WAR WITH THESE REACTORS.
    THE PRIZE IS THE EARTH.
    GOT A SPACESHIP?
    I've been reading this site for years. Yes it is depressing this F.D. FUBAR. Stock take a break an be with those that are important to you. Then come back.
    Even if we cannot win let us not be viewed by the cosmos as quitters.
    My thinking is big machines ( see other post). I'm just trying to think way out of the sphere.
    No giving up –
    I read others problems here and they are real.
    No giving up.
    PEACE ( oops dated myself)


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  • Admin…I'm speakin' to ya! All you have to do is appoint a couple mods who can access and tally the report files and delete the few who come here specifically to drown out our voices.
    We're fighting for the health of our children, their children and that includes all of the species we can nurture too. Come what may, we shouldn't jump off the cliff on purpose to please the nuke industry.
    The people who read these threads are increasing and the need for them to hear all that has been kept from them is their choice and right. I think we all know that we can't predict the future but we'll take care of each other whether it's for a short time or long.
    I love this planet and all the good that takes place on it. I'm not the kind of person who hopes it's my last incarnation on the way to getting my eternal cloud sitting badge. I plan to hang close after I die and be part of the spirit tribe who listens in and I'll protect and back-up the people still in this physical niche of the quantum squiggles the best I can. I plan to be a kick ass good humored practical helper non-corporeal friend for those who come next. :)
    Whatever happens these next years, it would break my frkn' heart if the kids who have to face this mess without us felt forgotten and alone.


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    • +1
      It's past time.
      It's clear when there is off topic antagonistic trolling by an entity whose hubris and rhetoric repeat in a nonstop manner.
      Did I mention, it's annoying and distracting too. ;)


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    • VoxDei VoxDei
      Why do you want one way dialogue? That is not free speech.


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    • +10000 great plan…
      And if there is reincarnation, may each one felled by this criminal cartel, come back not as one, but as ONE MILLION freedom fighters and activists.
      So as you get rid of one, you multiply the opposition by one million.


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    • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
      I agree on the moderator thingy , ADMIN , you do a fantastic job at ripping all this reality hiding curtains back , Really really awesome !!
      But because you are so good , a part of your creation needs something you have very understandebly neither the energy or the time for..
      A MODERATOR !
      pretty please…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eu1KYe3sc8 :)


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      • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
        I think if Enenews members can put forward a few candidates that woulden't mind intervening capabilities when they are here, we have a higher chance of being heard by admin ?
        I nominate Jebus and Sickputer as a first choice , but there are many good people who can recognise the difference between an evildoer and someone having a "senior moment".
        We need to make a list of nominee's..


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        • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
          and they must agree of course..jousting power's are a responsibility..


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        • VoxDei VoxDei
          Senior moments include Jeeberish gibberish. This site should not foster hostile remarks either way. You want one way dialogue and censorship I understand.


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          • Jebus Jebus
            Did you find a dress?
            Global nuclear power contribution falls to lowest since 1980s
            Of the 67 reactors under construction globally as at July 2014, at least 49 were experiencing delays and eight had been under construction for 20 years, it said.
            http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/29/nuclear-industry-decline-idUSL4N0Q42P220140729
            Go with black. It's a funeral…


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          • VanneV VanneV
            VD, you make hostile remarks all the time. You insult the Creator with your moniker. You insult the intelligence of scientific research by calling them biased sources. You insult my intelligence and judgment.
            You use name calling all the time and all the other posters and claim that your motive is to run off all other poster.
            You are talking about yourself, Voice of Death, when you say posters shouldn't attack others.
            So you are calling for your own ban from this website.
            How about you stop attacking others and remove all your off topic comments to the off topic forum.


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            • VoxDei VoxDei
              Just be honest and admit a pronuclear voice will not be tolerated here. Can we at least admit that? I make no bones about my pronuclear stance and opinions. I should voice them freely without being subject to insults. Can we agree on that? People here tell me to eff off not the other way around. Are people here not tolerant enough to think any pronuclear voice is not a troll or shill? I am pronuclear because the good of the technology outweighs the minimal risks.


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              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks
                I do not care if your here, since you can not win the pronuclear argument… :)
                You have not read enough or researched enough to be of any help to any of us here and that is the real problem..
                You are living in a fantasy land promoting Nuclear poisons now spreading all over the globe and you think this is OK.. :(
                This is not OK and therefor you will get heat here..since we care and you do not.
                Simple really! :)


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              • Jebus Jebus
                It is not about pro or con. It is about the fact that Fukushima is the tipping point for tolerance of nuclear power.
                If it was safe, no one would be dissenting.
                If it was contained, no one would be dissenting.
                If it was cost effective as an energy source, no one would be dissenting.
                If it was not based on lies, no one would be dissenting.
                If it was not TATAL, no one would be dissenting.
                If you were not a nuclear shill, no one would want you to go away.
                If you were not an ignorant troll, we would say hi.
                Look in the mirror, ask yourself why…


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    • Jebus Jebus
      I like the idea of multiple moderators. More than two.
      I work full time, so I would not be a very prompt moderator.
      I will say that a moderator system does not preclude anyone to be banned to enact it. Past is past on that.
      Free speech is paramount.
      A revised and posted TOS is the rule that should be honored.
      After that has been violated, a system of degradation of posting rights would be in order. Even down to one post a forum a day.
      I also like the idea of individuals having the ability to wall off an obnoxious poster from their views.
      And my final point is that anywhere else you go, to any site of comments on the web, there is a system of moderation.
      I can't go to another energy site and cause trouble for a group that ID's me as a trouble maker.
      I would be kicked out lickity split…


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      • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
        Thanks for chiming in Jebus , i had just asked you somewhere else lol.
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        "I like the idea of multiple moderators. More than two. "

        I agree , i think 4 would be a good number so nobody gets a burnout , availability etc
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        I will say that a moderator system does not preclude anyone to be banned to enact it.

        I don't understand that sentence
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        A revised and posted TOS is the rule that should be honored.
        —–
        What is a TOS ?
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        I also like the idea of individuals having the ability to wall off an obnoxious poster from their views

        An ignore button..? agree..if admin has the energy and time to implement..up to him i guess
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        And my final point is that anywhere else you go, to any site of comments on the web, there is a system of moderation.
        I can't go to another energy site and cause trouble for a group that ID's me as a trouble maker.
        I would be kicked out lickity split…

        Yeah so true..


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        • Jebus Jebus
          "I don't understand that sentence"
          I do not agree if the moderator system is just to target an individual…
          If this site is wild west style, the jerk still has a right to be.
          If it's moderated forward, the jerk still has a right to be and there can't be any grandfathered violations.
          Draw a line and wait for the crossing…


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          • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
            Draw a line and wait for the crossing…
            No powerabuse or corruption to put it simple for the internationals correct ? :)
            agree offcourse , thanks for putting it up front.


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            • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
              "Past is past.. "
              "I do not agree if the moderator system is just to target an individual…"

              Ok Jebus.. got it now sry a made a few banning comment's after your post..i really did not got it..
              And thank you for being open to the proposol..i hope others will follow..
              Dear ADMIN , are you too.. ?
              ok back to bed.


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              • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
                Hey come on guy's , why no more opinion's or proposal's on this important issue ?


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                • or-well
                  DID, for my part, I don't believe Admin wants change.
                  OK, so it's hard to track VPN user.
                  It's NOT hard to wipe offending comments.
                  So –
                  1. too busy to bother even hiring some school kid to clean up targeted junk on occasion or
                  2. doesn't care
                  Good luck to any proposals for improvement.


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                  • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
                    Thx or-well.
                    Hmm , even if we prepare a list of ace guy's and gal's willing to take it on them to provide a stable and secure environment within certain borders for all contributor's and readers.
                    Would he still not care about that opportunity ?
                    I find that hard to believe..hmm.
                    I have some digesting to do..


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown
                    ref; moderation. I have never favored rules and regulations. The ones breaking new ground always broke the rules, and the others always wanted to stone em
                    So here is a suggestion; allow each blogger only three posts per thread. The allowable length could be extended for that literary masterpiece. That way, anybody can get their word in, and it would promote an upgrade in content quality; nobody would waste a post just for chat.
                    If someone wants to say they are the voice of god, or the jews did it, or its HAARP, or the world has gone fascist(thats my line), or perpetrators should be hammered and flayed and shot with ayahuasca darts and fried in solar cookers…or whatever, they should have a say but once or twice is enough. No hound dogging others or sunday drivel or auto-scriptflingin.
                    I mean, what if it really was the voice of god, and it turns out the Shinto instead of the Jews were actually chosen, but she/it got booted and then we had to go back to 2000 year old scrolls? I couldnt bear it


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      • The ideal is 1 moderator per 500 members.
        Globally spread out, so there is always someone up watching over the group.
        Communication channels open between admins and group owner to keep everyone in the loop about 'problem children', and get input on questionable cases.


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        • Even one volunteer moderator is better than nothing at all.
          Wild west is what is here now.. anything goes.
          This usually causes a group to die a quick death.. everyone leaves, due to not being willing to be the target of constant attacks by trolls, and having them take over the group.
          Many have left already..
          Prediction: The longer this "wild west" situation continues, the worse it will get in terms of people leaving.
          It is possible to have 60,000 people and no one showing up due to this issue.


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          • I consider this site a rare meeting place for people who already have questions regarding radiation effects and want to learn any clarification that mainstream media doesn't provide. The discussions and answers here help them figure out how exposure applies to them and what they can or want to do. Extremely valuable, possibly life saving.
            They've come across enews somewhere, or friends link them and hope they'll drop by to view. Too often my friends or associates say the informative honest posters are great and the occasional side drifts of personal spats don't bother them. BUT when they follow a link I've given and by then the topic is saturated with disruptive pronuke comments, they can't even wade through to get see the information they were hoping to find and have no desire to become a member just to be attacked by people or bots trying to hack or shut the site down. So we lose a lot of potential real interactions with new people.
            A moderator doesn't have to read every post made 24/7. 2 or 3 trusted folks with high speed servers and good assessment skills could go through new reports not yet dealt with. These moderators could have their own private mini-forum to discuss doubts or questions about potential actions warrenting warnings, temporary blocks or the finality of complete banishment. A status log could show reported comments of user's whose only purpose is to repeatedly bait and take over with intent of destroying the site's use & credibility.
            My…


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        • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
          Hi Dr Goodheart , that would be ideal..but i don't even think it has to be perfect from the start..
          if only 1 person alone would be on it just a few hours per week would be already a major improvement compared to now..
          What the hell..everything would be an improvement from what it is now..
          How many stock's have to burnout before somebody cares.. ?


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          • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
            lol again ninja typing when i'm still responding lol
            But see , we are saying the same thing..must be some truth in it..
            ADMIN , i don't know if you are following this conversation but it would be nice to give us some clarity about your position on this..
            Thanks in advance..


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            • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
              I just reported myself to get some attention on this..
              Hello ADMIN , if you can find the time , could you please chime in on this conversation ? thx in advance.
              DID


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              • AGR emailed admin about adding moderators…
                Let's see what happens..
                At least everyone can say they did their best.


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                • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
                  Thank you Goodheart , i agree.
                  May our effort's to stop the degeneration of this wonderfull site be not so futile as our effort's to save our lives lol..


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                • I've also read admin say they are more easily reached via fb messaging?


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                  • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
                    Hi chemfood , i would not know , i don't do fb or tweet.
                    But those that do and want to help , feel free to make ADMIN aware we are trying to talk to him.
                    Meantime , it would be appreciated if everybody would take a moment to think what they want from a moderator and who they think posses such quality's..
                    Then we can ask them who is willing..after ADMIN gave his blessing ofcourse..
                    I have a humble hope..


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                • VanneV VanneV
                  My experience with enenews is that it is already very well moderated. My personal experience is that pro Nukers try every way they can to get rid of those who post scientific articles opposing nuclear technology including tactics to get Admin to ban them permanently.
                  Comments are deleted, bloggers are put into an awaiting moderation mode at times, and adding blogger moderators would get rid of the most ardent antiNuke bloggers by a hacking troll. Many of our trolls pretend to be anti-Nuke, such as Bill Duff. Then they start slipping in a few comments that show their pro Nuke bias, and they have conversations with themselves under 2 or more names to "authenticate" their pretend point of view.
                  I don't like troll attacks on anyone including me. But I have had to ask myself, why am I here? I am here as an anonymous blogger to aggregate information about nuclear technology and health, that is, that health is possible only if nuclear technology is abolished and banned worldwide, only if people have access to unpolluted land,, water, and air, which is not possible with energy company rape of the planet. And the worst rape is nuclear energy, but there are others: fracking, chemtrails, pesticides, herbicides, fossil fuels, etc, etc., etc., to name only a few.


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                • VoxDei VoxDei
                  Lets have true moderation not censorship


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                  • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
                    Your opinion is the last one on this site to reckon with in this matter of moderation. You repeated coming all innocent out the corner does not fool anybody here , except first time readers for a few second's..maybe..
                    And it is also just another symptom of your personality being psychopatic deseased.
                    And yes , you should be banned , and be locked up in a moral bootcamp. You fall outside the part of humanity that has evolved mutual respect enough to invent the concept of freespeech.
                    You are just a gnat living inside a human container, trying to use ENEnews for securing nuclear armageddon upon this world.


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                • VoxDei VoxDei
                  Moderators should not be based on pro or anti nuke views. Effective moderation is neutral.


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      • VoxDei VoxDei
        Free speech. You ready for it?


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